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whether it has a net positive or negative impact on the field of astrology in general

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There are three primary things considered in a medical astrology chart of any type; these are: 1. the Sun, the zodiac sign and House it is in, and any relevant influences from other planets; 2. the Moon, the zodiac sign and House it is in, and any relevant influences from other planets, and; 3. the Sixth House, the zodiac sign on its cusp, any planets located in or associated with the House and any relevant influences by other planets. The Sun is usually considered to be the primary indicator of the health of a male, with the Moon being of secondary significance. For the female the Moon is the primary health indicator, while the Sun is of secondary significance. The Sixth House refers to health matters in general and is the most important House in a health related chart. There are also other things to consider, such as the placement of the planets in the sky, that is the zodiac sign and House the planets are located in, and their relationship to one another, in other words, whether there is a significant aspect (angular alignment) between planets. Of course there are a number of other considerations that are not mentioned here, but this is, as stated before, just a basic overview.
At this point, it may be useful to look at an example of the use of a decumbiture chart. The button below links to a page that has a sample decumbiture chart with some basic interpretive comments. I have chosen a decumbiture chart as an example because firstly, it is the most traditional method and secondly, because it is a lot more concise and less complex than a transits chart.

Finally, medical astrology was for thousands of years an important, if not an essential part of medicine. Although cultural perspectives may have changed over the years, the reality of cosmic influences on the natural world has not. Today we listen to weather forecasters who use careful observations and complex mathematical models to give us prediction that help us in planning our lives and prevent us from getting caught in potentially health damaging, or even life threatening situations. In that respect, nothing much has changed and it is often forgotten that weather patterns are, by-and-large due to external cosmic influences on this planet. In the past the focus was on the larger picture, the influences from the "planets" and the significance of the relative position of the earth in the universe. But despite the popular belief today, that our ancestors considered that the planets and the stars had unswerving control over their life, or that they caused or cured disease, this was never really the case. They did however like us today, want to know the influences they might have to deal with, so they could plan and adapt accordingly. Needless to say, the fact that astrology is currently not a "politically correct" scientific subject, makes it neither truth nor nonsense. On the other hand, thousands of years of accumulated "evidence based" knowledge must surely hold some weight. In the end it is up to all of us to decide what drives us more, a truly open mind, or a strong need to "fit in" with what we perceive to be the norms of society.

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Astrology has always played an important part in traditional medical systems the world over, and Graeco-Arabic Medicine was no exception.
Because today's perception of the universe is governed by "rational" principles, that is, we tend to see the world around us in terms of how (we are told) it really exists, the ancients' way of trying to determine information about a disease by observing the position of the planets and stars may seem rather strange to some of us. But the ancients saw the world and the universe in a different way than we do today; they perceived and interpreted the world around them as a reality, that is, as they experienced it both objectively and subjectively. They therefore saw no problem in accepting the correlations they found between their own experiences and the great cosmic clock of planets and stars. To them it was no more strange to use astrology to predict the weather than to predict the course of a disease.
There are many things that may be argued for and against both the modern and the ancient world views, but whatever one's opinion may be, to regard our ancient ancestors as a bunch of primitive fools and ourselves as profoundly enlightened, would be a grave error. There are certainly many things in our modern "rational" and "scientific" perception that the ancients would have considered quite irrational, because it blatantly contradicts everyday personal experience.

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